Reactions when people find out I am a Freemason...

topic posted Mon, October 20, 2008 - 5:06 PM by 
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I have a Masonic Avatar on at the moment .. I don't do that often, but people's reaction is interesting.. and generally positive and curious.

Several people have been surprised I am a Master Mason.. not really knowing much about us except the standard conspiracy theories.. and especially surprised to see a "younger" bloke who is "normal" being a member LOL..

I have been guilty of being a bit of a closet Mason. I even remember an occasion when a friend was spouting all sorts of rubbish about them and I did not say anything. Now I would.. but not then when I was still trying to understand the basics of the organisation and fraternity..

Recently one of our staff was talking about finding a mates grandfather's regalia. He was talking about all this "weird Masonic stuff" - case, apron, jewels and the like. In the past I would have just said "Oh really - that sounds like interesting stuff".. but now it was "You know I am a Mason don't you ?"...

Another close friend once made a joke about "The Evil Freemasons who run the World" and then asked "I wonder what they get up to ?"... A family member who was there just said "I am not sure - why not ask one ?" and pointed to me.. He was surprised. Interested. Curious. He is now a member of my Lodge :)

Being cautious, I am still careful who I tell in my daily life.. but have never got a hostile response.

I think a turning point was when I told my mother. Her side of the family ( thinking in the context of early to mid last century) comes from an Irish Catholic Working Class Family and in Melbourne, sectarianism was a problem from WW1 to the 1970's. Freemasons were often seen as baddies.. Knights of the Southern Cross - the goodies.. but that is speaking in very broad brush strokes.... And we all know some Irish Catholic National Heroes were Freemasons (Dan O'Connell being the best example.. ) I was concerned about my mum's reaction - which was very favourable. One of her closest cousins holds Grand Rank and had broken all the ground I thought I would have to cover. She was supportive. More interestingly - she had actually been to functions held in Masonic Premises. The only thing which had held me back was fear. And it was proved that the fear was totally unfounded....

I think a big part of my confidence to talk about Masonry is founded on the fact I now know more about it.. and it's history.. I am comfortable with being a Freemason. More than that - I am proud of it..

Anyone feel like sharing a story about telling folks they are a Mason ?

Are you an "Out and Proud" Freemason or do you hide your membership ? Me - I am still a mixture of both - I don't advertise the fact by wearing a pin and jumping up and down about it.. but I do bore my mates with Lodge stories and how much I enjoy being a Freemason and the great friends I have because of being a member.. ..
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  • Irish Catholic working class...now I know why I like you. But I am not catholic......

    Anyway I didn't tell my mother for a year and it was in fact a member of my lodge, the husband of a woman she used to work for, who told her in casual conversation.

    After I had put my petition in I had a conversation with my mother and we talked about my aunt who worked as a nurse at one of the masonic homes in PA. I mentioned I knew some Masons. She then proceeded to tell me all the conspiracy garbage she had read on line about masons. Seems some one wanted to have a masonic service at her chuch for his funeral so they looked it up on line and found all this "stuff" and refused to let the brother have a masonic funeral service. Denying a last request is a different topic I take offence to so I will let it go here. I did not tell her I was joining right then but I knew it was gong to be fun when I did. I like confrontation with close minded people who only see one narrow view of the world....like my mother. So I waited until I bought my masonic ring which my wife was giving to me for Christmas that year. I figured she would see it and I could crush her sterotypes as a christmas present....yes, yes I am evil I know. But my brother mason spoiled it for me when he ran into her at a resturant and he told her he sees me in lodge all the time...he got to shock her. hahaha I would have loved to be there.

    My experiences with men both who I know and dont know has been positive and they usually have a few questions or make a light joke about controlling the world and I usually tell them "not yet but when we do I will put a good word in for them and see they are on the list of those who will live." We laugh and life goes on.

    I did have one time just a few weeks ago that illustrated the power of freemasonry to me. I have a neihbor behind me who I have not spoken to in 5-6 years. We had a disagreement about some 4th of July fireworks and he would not just drop it so I stopped talking to him or cutting my hedges on his side of the fence. He also made a few stupid remarks to my wife. Seems the old guy is a mason and must have found out from my neibhors next door who are friendly with him and watch my son occasionally when I go to meetings. Bill called me over one day and wanted to talk to me. He appologized for his comments and behavior. I could see him looking at my ring as I was leaning on the fence. He told me he was a mason and that was one of the reasons he wanted to talk. I would have accepted his appology anyway but being brothers it made it that much better.

    So be proud and be and ambassador for freemasonry wherever you go.
    • I have a S&C on my vehicle and I always wear my ring. I don't hide it, but I am not outspoken about it either.

      Interesting thing - I am discerning a call to the Anglican/Episcopal Deaconate. Turns out the Archdeacon, whom I am working with has a strong Christian anti-Masonic bias. I came out in our last meeting where he made several statements, but I did not respond to them. To me it was useless to argue about it when I know I won't change his mind - that and I didn't want to get myself in a political mess any more than I have to at the moment.

      ~Steve
      • Jimmy - <now I know why I like you. >

        It is my love for Brotherhood and Booze !

        Finn <Archdeacon, whom I am working with has a strong Christian anti-Masonic bias>

        So sad this stuff. They just don't get it and often operate on a combination of fear, hate, misconceptions and plain old ignorance.

        A very senior church man here, who also held senior Masonic rank was denied burial in his church by the Pastor when he found out he had been a Mason. Another mate called Don has been written off by "Christian" Friends because he is a member.

        Some of the best Christian's I know are Masons and vice versa.

        A hard one Finn.. not sure I would tackle it.. but if you don't risk it - the misconception continues.. easy for me to say though - because I do not have to deal with it.. hope it works out - one way or another - in silence or dialogue..
  • Generally, I Get Either Surprise (Usually the Good Kind) or Expressions of Congratulations & Pleasure. I Found Out a Dear Friend of Mine is a 50-Year Master Mason, Though He'd Been Raised 52 Years Ago (He was, Sadly & Possibly Unlawfully, Suspended for Non-Payment of Dues, w/o Notice, While He was in the U.S. Military for 2 Years). Many of My Dearest Friends are also My Brothers in BOTH Christianity & Freemasonry. The Order has Been VERY GOOD to Me.
    • Also, I'm a Proud Mason, Wearing the Pin of the KY Grand Master & a Tie Tack in the Shape of a Trowel w/ the Square, Compasses & G in the Center of the Trowel's Blade. Sadly, I've Lost the Pin Commemorating My Blue Lodge's 100th Anniversary (Which was Celebrated Back in 2003, Since the Lodge was Chartered in 1903) & My Master Mason Pin.
      • <I've Lost the Pin Commemorating My Blue Lodge's 100th Anniversary (Which was Celebrated Back in 2003, Since the Lodge was Chartered in 1903) & My Master Mason Pin. >

        Bummer....

        I also don't have the pin I was presented with.. but did not loose it.. I gave it away and it still gives me a kick to think of the man I have it to wearing it. It ended up unexpectedly being a "swap" and I wear his in GL, my Lodge and those I visit.
    • "I Found Out a Dear Friend of Mine is a 50-Year Master Mason, Though He'd Been Raised 52 Years Ago (He was, Sadly & Possibly Unlawfully, Suspended for Non-Payment of Dues, w/o Notice, While He was in the U.S. Military for 2 Years)."

      Hmmm? sounds like a porblem with communications? He should re-petition the lodge. they should be able to reinstate him without to much hassle I'd think? Heck if he was in teh service they should wave the fees associated too!
      • He was Re-Instated, as Soon as He Paid the Dues; He Thought He'd Receive His 50-Year Pin Last Year, Then Found Out That His 2 Year Suspension Cost Him Those 2 Years. He Receives His 50-Year Pin Next Year. I Agree That Service to Country SHOULD be AUTOMATIC DUES WAIVER!!! Sadly, It's Not, as Far as I Know.
        • Write it up and present it to Grand Lodge then. It may pass then again ti may fail but you should try.
          • Yes I am the man Bloke gave his pin to. I also sent him mine. I wear his on my vest to every meeting I have to wear my tails or tux to. So at least three per month. I have told many people the story. It ties me to a mason on the other side of the world and really shows the power of masonry. I sent him a bunch of pins and I have a few more for him now.
            • SEND MORE STUFF JIMMY LOL !~

              Yep - great story how Freemasons who have never met can be Fraternal via the internet.

              Jimmy and I are different in many ways – but share the common bond of Freemasonry on which we, like so many others, have built a friendship.

              Jimmy has written for my Lodge Newsletter and I have written the odd article about him. Part of one read;

              “Last year Brother Jimmy generously sent me a collection of Masonic material, “……. “ … I likewise gathered some material to forward to Jimmy but felt it lacked the quality of the material he had sent me. So after some consideration on what I could send him that was "special", I decided I should include the Square and Compass pin presented to me in Open Lodge when I Raised at Devotion. It seemed to impress him - so much so that he sent me a collection of further pins - including the Square and Compass he was presented upon his Raising. For non-masonic readers - these pins are decorative and serve no Masonic purpose beyond proudly announcing that you are a Freemason -if you choose to wear them. Nevertheless, you only ever get Raised once - and hence they can be of quite sentimental value. I certainly would not have thought I would ever have given mine away - but sending mine to Brother James felt extremely fitting. I was not expecting to get the equivalent back - but he sent me his. This allows me to proudly wear Jimmy’s Pin. Wearing something which has a unique and strong story of Masonic Friendship gives me great pride and joy and demonstrates that indeed Freemasonry, particularly via "E-Masonry", can provide Universal Friendship to Brothers who have never met but share membership in the greatest Fraternity that a man can join.”

              Jim’s pins have been to GL, my Lodge and many others and is a great talking point. I posted a pic of them here freemasons.tribe.net/photos/...2b44ee0c

              Christopher - I hope you find your pins - then give them away ! :)
  • I'm pretty "out" with my participation although that has varied at times. My father's side of the fmaily is somewhat surprised and tolerate me (which was the case before I petitioned) Raised Roman Catholic so there is that. It is likely however the family wasn't always Catholic I've not been able to find that link yet but there is some eveidence. Anyhow my mother side has masonic links dating back many years. I own my Grandfather or great-Grandfather's pin although it is on a gray suit jacket I rarely wear. I've still got the pin I was presented with and many more that were from Grand Lodge (Grand Masters Pins and a rededication pin) or gifts from friends, family, and my wife. Mostly my coworkers who know are accepting but do nto see a reason to join if they aren't already. Where I live we are close to the state line between NY & PA and with one exception all the Masons I know at work belong to lodges in PA. The two major hobbies I am a part of Medieval recreation in the SCA and ALrge Scale model railroading or Garden Railroading some folks are surprised and some understand completely. many SCA members are also Masons it turns out and is a good fit. I've found some Masons that are hobbyists too. I'd say that mostly that I've been positively recieved when folks find out. Yes I'ma younger member too. Although at this rate not for long. I'm seeing more gray every day in the mirror.

    I've pretty much displayed the S&C badge on most of my vehicles. I find it helps me to be a more courteous driver at times remembering that people see that badge and relate me to their pre-concieved notions of Freemasonry. LOL!

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